Assignment #4 Blog
Martin Kim 11/21/11
Mr. Katz
English 101
The general argument made by Dale J. Stephens in “The Case Against College”. Specifically argues that School kills creativity, and that college puts students in massive dept.” Dale J. Stephens writes “There are a little over 19 million college students in the United States, each of whom are graduating with an average of $24,000 in debt, according to the nonprofit Institute for College Access & Success. After college, they are forced to find a job to pay off that debt instead of being allowed to take the time to start companies, projects, causes or initiatives. They are, essentially, mortgaging their freedom in exchange for a degree.”
In this passage he suggests that going to college isn’t always a bad decision. He says “If you’re a first-generation college student and get a full-ride scholarship to Harvard — by all means go.” I agree. Obviously If you’re a first generation college student then going to college anywhere would be an amazing achievement right there. It brings up your family’s social status and it brings a type of pride to your family. Dale J. Stephen also thinks that going to an average college is a waste of time, However he believes that instead of going to college and using tens of thousands of dollars to get a degree, you can instead work outside of college and get real experience to be just as good as, if not better than a college student. Yet In the real world however, business executives, CEO’s, and other major companies look for a minimum of four years in college, and most of the time even more than that. I know that sale Stephens brings up this point, that it would be easier to “have a minimum of a masters” instead of individually qualifying applicants. The harsh reality is that it is true; CEO’s don’t want to spend the time and effort looking for qualified candidates so they leave it up to them to decide if they want to go through that effort for the job.
Another point that Dale Stephen Jr brings up is that school kills creativity. From what I read it sounds as if Stephens is solely blaming school for killing creativity in kids. Yet he does not bring into account the countless other factors that could also affect this. A child can just be lazy and not want to be creative and find the easy way out by taking other’s ideas. As they grow up nobody really knows what happens to creativity, it could just be lost or it could flourish and end up creating a new invention that would revolutionize the world. Either way there is no solid test that can be conducted with evidence that measures a person’s creativity and how creative they will be in the future. Although there was a book in 1998 called “Breakpoint and Beyond” that wrote about a test conducted with 1,500 kids around the ages of 3 through 5 being tests on their “creativity”. It showed that children score higher on their creativity test when they were young and lower as they grew older, but no matter how much people he test’s there is bound to be at least one black sheep who scored low on his test and higher as he grew older, which would make the test insufficient. In conclusion Dale J. Stephens belief is that he is for uncollege students and would like it if uncollege students and college students both had the same opportunities instead of being weighed on a scale based on a degree.
In my view I think Dale J. Stephen is wrong because going to college does cost a substantial amount of money, however dedicating only four years of your life to get a basic foundation for the real world and being able to prepare yourself is really nothing. This amount of time is a miniscule amount compared to the next 70 years of trying to be able to grasp these difficult concepts and subjects on your own. Sure he talks about teaching yourself, but that can only go so far and the amount of money you would have to spend on tutors to teach you each subject separately will probably average tens of thousands of dollars anyways. If you think about it, if a uncollege person works at a job and makes fifty thousand dollars a year, sure he’ll be up two-hundred thousand dollars by the time a college student gets his degree. However if a college student then makes eighty-thousand dollars a year he’ll be able to catch up to the uncollege student in no time, and on top of that he will be able to make a much larger profit in the long-run. Although Dale J. Stephen might object that during those four years you can accomplish just as much as you would in the real world, I maintain my point that staying in school is the best way to go. Dale J. Stephen also states, “The Thiel Fellowship is not about dropping out of school — it’s about making a sound investment in your future.” This isn’t very true considering that going to college would actually be the smarter investment on a student’s part. The idea of uncollege is not about actually just about dropping out of college and going straight to work. It’s about dropping from college and using outside sources of knowledge to learn and evolve. This idea isn’t a bad one but it is a little unrealistic in my point of view. Teaching yourself the necessary and right information is hard enough; however what if you spend a substantial amount of time possibly learning the wrong thing? You could use hire a tutor to teach you that subject and learn it only to realize later that it has nothing that pertains to your future. That would end up being an even bigger waste of money and time. College is specifically designed to teach you all of these things that you would have to learn in uncollege in a short amount of time.
Dale J. Stephen implies that college is basically a waste of money and time because of the massive dept that students accumulate over those 4 years. However according to a law forum website another advantage that college students get over uncollege students is connections. Connections basically run the outside world, top Forbes 100 companies, elite law firms, and well known hospitals don’t only hire the smartest people, but the people with the best connections. It is sad to admit but a major factor in the hiring of employee’s can be a game of who knows the most people. In the business world knowing people can get you places, In college you make those friends who become successful later in life and that can help you secure a position in your future. If you were an uncollege student however it would be a lot harder to secure a good position if you have no connections. One example of college students benefiting from going to college, is if you went to a big school like the SUNY University At Buffalo, you could have the chance of meeting a lot more people because it has over thirty-thousand students alone. The possibilities are virtually limitless; another way that college gives an edge to students is opportunities to join organizations such as business fraternities. These fraternities help spread out your connections even farther, to people you’ve never even met before giving you a job because you were in the same business fraternity in the same school. College life can also teach you how to get better people skills by letting you interact with others from different parts of the country. You can belong to a diverse group of friends and learn how people in California are compared to people in Mississippi. You can learn to deal with time management that a lot of high school students have trouble with. The college experience is something that is also worth going to college. It helps prepare you for the real world. It helps mature you from a boy to a man. When I was in high school I thought I knew everything and was prepared for anything that could come my way, but now that I am in college I’ve realized that there is a lot that I do not know and a lot that I could learn. Experiences like these are a once in a lifetime opportunity that you can only get from going to college. Experiences like studying abroad at different campus’s across the globe, such as London, Paris, Madrid, Spain, etc. It can teach you so much more about the world and open your eyes to new cultures. College is basically a tool to help you in your endeavors by preparing. There are billions of people on the earth, every single one of those people strive to be better, you do not want to lose to those people and end up on the bottom so you should do everything in your power to get a step ahead of them. If college wasn’t necessary, and it truly was just a waste of money. People wouldn’t be going, however no matter how idiotic Dale J. Stephen thinks getting a “degree” is, it is still just a necessary step to get ahead in the game.
One question that was asked to Dale J Stephen was “How do I convince a prospective employer that my uncollege experience is just as valuable as another person’s college degree?” It is very obvious that if you do go down the uncollege route instead of college, then it would be a difficult and hard excursion. The uncollege route in my opinion basically consumes you’re life. When you are not going to “school” then you should probably be working to make a name for yourself. I agree with Stephen on the point that college does put students in massive debt because the amount of money they charge you is a little ridiculous. Yet I disagree with the uncollege idea also, both have their negatives but college is definitely the better choice, because if you cannot change society then you have to adapt to it. To be able to convince an employer that your uncollege experience is just as valuable as a college student’s degree will be almost impossible. If you walked into a CEO’s office and show them your degree they would then proceed to ask you various questions about why they think you’re qualified, they might even ask why you didn’t go to graduate school and get a doctorate. If most jobs require degrees and doctorates today then how can a uncollege student walk into a room with a CEO and prove anything? Sure he could explain to him what he’d been doing but he couldn’t prove it to him. Unless he could seriously impress the CEO throughout that short meeting and show him something very impressive that would make him think about giving him a chance. Then there is almost little to no chance of an uncollege student convincing a prospective employer that he is as qualified as a college student.
Therefore, I conclude that concentrating on learning for four years might seem like a waste of time at first, It will take a substantial amount of money and set you back a little, but the benefits will be rewarding. College will definitely pay off in your future. Every student has a choice, the choice is up to him or her, Dale J. Stephen brings up a good point in his arguments, but is anyone actually willing to take such a big risk for the same reward? Are they willing to sacrifice their college experience and set off into the world by themselves? Some of the best friends you make in your life are created in college. These bonds strengthen and later they eventually make way for new jobs and life long connections. The uncollege experience may be right for some people however I stand by my point that uncollege just isn’t worth the risk, and that college is the smarter decision in the long run.